In this conversation, Kaitlyn Scheiss discusses her book, 'The Ballot and the Bible,' which explores how scripture has been used and misused in American politics. She reflects on her journey as a doctoral student in political theology, the challenges of writing a book during her studies, and the importance of understanding the historical context of biblical interpretations in political discourse. The discussion delves into the complexities of how different Christian traditions engage with scripture in political contexts, particularly in relation to contentious issues like slavery and social justice. Our host for this episode is Dan Hummel, Director of the Lumen Center for the SL Brown Foundation. Our guest is Kaitlyn Schiess, she is the author of 'The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture has been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here' (Brazos Press, 2023) and 'The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor' (InterVarsity Press, 2020). She has also written for Christianity Today, The New York Times, Christ and Pop Culture, RELEVANT, and Sojourner. Kaitlyn is a co-host of the Holy Post podcast and the host of the podcast Curiously, Kaitlyn, two shows that work to help Christians think well and live faithfully in a pluralistic world. She has a ThM in systematic theology from Dallas Theological Seminary and is currently a doctoral student in political theology at Duke Divinity School. 3u5r3m