Effective Altruism Forum Podcast 6k7338

Article 5 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Obviously, no one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." OK, it doesn’t actually start with "obviously," but I like to imagine the commissioners all murmuring to themselves “obviously” when this item was brought up. I’m not sure what the causal effect of Article 5 (or the 1984 UN Convention Against Torture) has been on reducing torture globally, though the physical integrity rights index (which “captures the extent to which people are free from government torture and political killings”) has increased from 0.48 in 1948 to 0.67 in 2024 (which is good). However, the index reached 0.67 already back in 2001, so at least according to this metric, we haven’t made much progress in the past 25 years. Reducing government torture and killings seems to be low in tractability. Despite many [...] The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 18th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/7FvDvMQypyua4kTL5/most-painful-condition-known-to-mankind-a-retrospective-of --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

Summary  While many people and organisations in the EA community can be great connections, don't assume that just because a person has been in the EA community for a long time, they'll be a good fit for you to work with or be friends with. Don’t assume that just because a project or org has been around for a long time, it would be a good place for you to work. It may be a great opportunity, but it might not. Do some of the usual things you would do to check that this is a good interaction for you (e.g. talk to people who know or have worked with them before starting a collaboration, take time to get to know someone before placing large amounts of trust on them, and pay attention to any signals that this interaction might not be a good for you). [...] --- Outline: (00:11) Summary (01:27) Choosing to work with another person (03:04) Conference attendance (03:38) Working with organisations (04:06) Personal Interactions with Community --- First published: May 22nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/yNm58h8cvufPfBPLP/don-t-update-too-much-from-ea-community-involvement --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Introduction I have been writing posts critical of mainstream EA narratives about AI capabilities and timelines for many years now. Compared to the situation when I wrote my posts in 2018 or 2020, LLMs now dominate the discussion, and timelines have also shrunk enormously. The ‘mainstream view’ within EA now appears to be that human-level AI will be arriving by 2030, even as early as 2027. This view has been articulated by 80,000 Hours, on the forum (though see this excellent piece excellent piece arguing against short timelines), and in the highly engaging science fiction scenario of AI 2027. While my article piece is directed generally against all such short-horizon views, I will focus on responding to relevant portions of the article ‘Preparing for the Intelligence Explosion’ by Will MacAskill and Fin Moorhouse. Rates of Growth The authors summarise their argument as follows: Currently, total global research effort [...] --- Outline: (00:11) Introduction (01:05) Rates of Growth (04:55) The Limitations of Benchmarks (09:26) Real-World Adoption (11:31) Conclusion --- First published: May 2nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/meNrhbgM3NwqAufwj/why-i-am-still-skeptical-about-agi-by-2030 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Are you looking for a project where you could substantially improve indoor air quality, with benefits both to general health and reducing pandemic risk? I've written a bunch about air purifiers over the past few years, and its frustrating how bad commercial market is. The most glaring problem is the widespread use of HEPA filters. These are very effective filters that, unavoidably, offer significant resistance to air flow. HEPA is a great option for filtering air in single , such as with an outdoor air intake or a biosafety cabinet, but it's the wrong set of tradeoffs for cleaning the air that's already in the room. Air ing through a HEPA filter removes 99.97% of particles, but then it's mixed back in with the rest of the room air. If you can instead remove 99% of particles from 2% more air, or 90% from 15% more [...] --- First published: May 11th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/8BEqanpJFGhisETBi/better-air-purifiers --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

First published: May 16th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/LeCJqzdHZZB3uBhZg/the-daily-show-did-a-segment-on-ea-and-shrimp-welfare --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Americans, we need your help to stop a dangerous AI bill from ing the Senate. What's going on? The House Energy & Commerce Committee included a provision in its reconciliation bill that would ban AI regulation by state and local governments for the next 10 years. Several states have led the way in AI regulation while Congress has dragged its heels. Stopping state governments from regulating AI might be okay, if we could trust Congress to meaningfully regulate it instead. But we can’t. This provision would destroy state leadership on AI and the responsibility to a Congress that has shown little interest in seriously preventing AI danger. If this provision es the Senate, we could see a DECADE of inaction on AI. This provision also violates the Byrd Rule, a Senate rule which is meant to prevent non-budget items from being included in the reconciliation bill. What can I do? Here are [...] --- First published: May 15th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/qWcabjNqxEBNQY3cv/urgent-americans-call-your-senators-and-tell-them-you-oppose --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

I am Jason Green-Lowe, the executive director of the Center for AI Policy (CAIP). Our mission is to directly convince Congress to strong AI safety legislation. As I explain in some detail in this post, I think our organization has been doing extremely important work, and that we’ve been doing well at it. Unfortunately, we have been unable to get funding from traditional donors to continue our operations. If we don’t get more funding in the next 30 days, we will have to shut down, which will damage our relationships with Congress and make it harder for future advocates to get traction on AI governance. In this post, I explain what we’ve been doing, why I think it's valuable, and how your donations could help. This is the first post in what I expect will be a 3-part series. The first post focuses on CAIP's particular need [...] --- Outline: (01:33) OUR MISSION AND STRATEGY (02:59) Our Model Legislation (04:17) Direct Meetings with Congressional Staffers (05:20) Expert Briefings (06:16) AI Policy Happy Hours (06:43) Op-Eds & Policy Papers (07:22) Grassroots & Grasstops Organizing (09:13) Whats Unique About CAIP? (10:26) OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS (10:29) Quantifiable Outputs (11:21) Changing the Media Narrative (12:23) Proof of Concept (13:44) Outcomes -- Congressional Engagement (18:29) Context (19:54) OUR PROPOSED POLICIES (19:58) Mandatory Audits for Frontier AI (21:23) Liability Reform (22:32) Hardware Monitoring (24:11) Emergency Powers (25:31) Further Details (25:41) RESPONSES TO COMMON POLICY OBJECTIONS (25:46) 1. Why not push for a ban or pause on superintelligence research? (30:17) 2. Why not bills that have a better chance of ing this year, like funding for NIST or NAIRR? (32:30) 3. If Congress is so slow to act, why should anyone be working with Congress at all? Why not focus on promoting state laws or voluntary standards? (35:09) 4. Why would you push the US to unilaterally disarm? Don't we instead need a global treaty regulating AI (or subsidies for US developers) to avoid handing control of the future to China? (37:24) 5. Why haven't you accomplished your mission yet? If your organization is effective, shouldn't you have ed some of your legislation by now, or at least found some powerful Congressional sponsors for it? (40:56) OUR TEAM (41:53) Executive Director (44:04) Government Relations Team (45:12) Policy Team (46:08) Communications Team (47:29) Operations Team (48:11) Personnel Changes (48:49) OUR PLAN IF FUNDED (51:58) OUR FUNDING SITUATION (52:02) Our Expenses & Runway (53:02) No Good Way to Cut Costs (55:22) Our Revenue (57:02) Surprise Budget Deficit (59:00) The Bottom Line --- First published: May 7th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/9uZHnEkhXZjWzia7F/please-donate-to-caip-post-1-of-3-on-ai-governance --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Or on the types of prioritization, their strengths, pitfalls, and how EA should balance them The cause prioritization landscape in EA is changing. Prominent groups have shut down, others have been founded, and everyone is trying to figure out how to prepare for AI. This is the first in a series of posts examining the state of cause prioritization and proposing strategies for moving forward.  Executive Summary Performing prioritization work has been one of the main tasks, and arguably achievements, of EA. We highlight three types of prioritization: Cause Prioritization, Within-Cause (Intervention) Prioritization, and Cross-Cause (Intervention) Prioritization. We ask how much of EA prioritization work falls in each of these categories: Our estimates suggest that, for the organizations we investigated, the current split is 89% within-cause work, 2% cross-cause, and 9% cause prioritization. We then explore strengths and potential pitfalls of each level: Cause [...] --- Outline: (00:37) Executive Summary (03:09) Introduction: Why prioritize? Have we got it right? (05:18) The types of prioritization (06:54) A snapshot of EA (16:45) The Types of Prioritization Evaluated (16:57) Cause Prioritization (20:56) Within-Cause Prioritization (25:12) Cross-Cause Prioritization (30:07) Summary Table (30:53) What factors should push us towards one or another? (37:27) Possible Next Steps (39:44) Conclusion (40:58) Acknowledgements (41:01) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Modern geometric logo design with text RETHINK PRIORITIES (41:55) Appendix: Strengths and Pitfalls of Each Type (42:07) Within-Cause Prioritization Strengths (42:12) Decision-Making (42:37) Comparability of Outputs (44:18) Disciplinarity Advantages (45:45) Responsiveness to Evidence (46:48) Movement Building (48:06) Within-Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (48:12) Responsiveness to Evidence (50:54) Decision-Making (52:45) Cross-Cause Prioritization Strengths: (53:06) Decision-Making (54:49) Responsiveness to Evidence (56:08) Movement Building (56:22) Comparability of Outputs (56:45) Decision-Making (57:14) Cross-Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (57:20) Comparability of Outputs (58:01) Disciplinarity Advantages (58:41) Movement Building (59:09) Decision-Making (01:00:27) Cause Prioritization Strengths (01:00:32) Decision-Making (01:02:01) Responsiveness to Evidence (01:02:52) Movement Building (01:03:28) Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (01:04:28) Decision-Making (01:06:08) Responsiveness to Evidence The original text contained 23 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 16th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/ZPdZv8sHuYndD8xhJ/doing-prioritization-better-2 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article:

This is a Forum Team crosspost from Substack. Whither cause prioritization and connection with the good? There's a trend towards people who once identified as Effective Altruists now identifying solely as “people working on AI safety.”[1] For those in the loop, it feels like less of a trend and more of a tidal wave. There's an increasing sense that among the most prominent (formerly?) EA orgs and individuals, making AGI go well is functionally all that matters. For that end, so the trend goes, the ideas of Effective Altruism have exhausted their usefulness. They pointed us to the right problem – thanks; we’ll take it from here. And taking it from here means building organizations, talent bases, and political alliances at a scale incommensurate with attachment to a niche ideology or moralizing language generally. I think this a dangerous path to go down too hard and my impression [...] --- Outline: (02:39) What I see (06:35) The threat means pose to ends (11:12) Losing something more The original text contained 2 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 8th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/CKKAga4HfQyAranaC/the-soul-of-ea-is-in-trouble --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

I put on a small one-day conference. The cost per attendee was £50 (vs £1.2k for EAGs) and the cost per new connection was £11 (vs £130 for EAGs). intro EA North was a one-day event for the North of England. 35 people showed up on the day. In total, I spent £1765 (≈ $2.4k), including paying myself £20/h for 30h total. This money will be reimbursed by EA UK[1]. The cost per attendee was £50 and the cost per new connection was £11. These are significantly lower than for EAG events, suggesting that we should be putting on more smaller events. I am not arguing that EAGs should not exist at all. A local event will likely never let me connect with someone living on another continent in person. My main goal with this post is to encourage individuals to put on more events [...] --- Outline: (00:29) intro (01:38) why you can probably do this, too (02:26) what I spent the money on and a comparison with EAG London 2023 (03:12) budget breakdown (04:48) cost per attendee per day (05:17) cost per connection (07:19) what I spent my time on (08:24) ideas for being even more cost-effective (09:27) recommendations to funders (09:49) reconsider how much resources you spend on small applications (10:44) consider providing funding upfront (11:17) thermal printers are cool and cheap (11:57) conclusion The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 2nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/m9sTFoAsE8dSnzoBt/untitled-draft-tr7p --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

If you’re interested in having a meaningful EA career but your experience doesn’t match the types of jobs that the typical white collar, intellectual EA community leans towards, then you’re just like me. I have been earning to give as a nuclear power plant operator in Southern Maryland for the past few years, and I think it's a great opportunity for other EA's who want to make a difference but don’t have a PhD in philosophy or public policy. Additionally, I have personal sway with Constellation Energy's Calvert Cliffs plant, so I can influence the hiring process to help any interested applicants. Here are a few reasons that I think this is such an ideal Earn to Give career: A high income job in a low cost of living area means you will be able to donate a significant portion of your paychecks and still live comfortably. [...] --- First published: April 17th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/LeuLyJEXcjAkeB965/e2g-help-available --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

I’m ironically not a very prolific writer. I’ve preferred to stay behind the scenes here and leave the writing to my colleagues who have more of a knack for it. But a goodbye post is something I must write for myself. Perhaps I’m getting old and nostalgic, because what came out wound up being a wander down memory lane. I probably am getting old and nostalgic, but I also hope I’ve communicated something about my love for this community and the gratefulness for the chance to serve you all. My story of the EA Forum Few things have lasted as long in my life as my work on the Forum. I’ve spent more time working on the EA Forum than I’ve spent living anywhere since I was 0-12 years old. I've worked on the Forum longer than I've known my partner—whom I've known long enough to get married to. [...] --- Outline: (00:40) My story of the EA Forum (03:47) What's next The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 1st, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/4ckgvqohXTBy6hCap/untitled-draft-a4kx --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

Introduction In this post, I present what I believe to be an important yet underexplored argument that fundamentally challenges the promise of cultivated meat. In essence, there are compelling reasons to conclude that cultivated meat will not replace conventional meat, but will instead primarily compete with other alternative proteins that offer superior environmental and ethical benefits. Moreover, research into and promotion of cultivated meat may potentially result in a net negative impact. Beyond critique, I try to offer constructive recommendations for the EA movement. While I've kept this post concise, I'm more than willing to elaborate on any specific point upon request. From industry to academia: my cultivated meat journey I'm currently in my fourth year (and hopefully final one!) of my PhD. My thesis examines the environmental and economic challenges associated with alternative proteins. I have three working papers on cultivated meat at various stages of development, though [...] --- Outline: (00:13) Introduction (00:55) From industry to academia: my cultivated meat journey (01:53) Motivations and epistemic status (03:39) Baseline assumptions for this discussion (03:44) Cultivated meat is environmentally better than conventional meat, but probably not as good as plant-based meat (06:29) Cultivated meat will remain quite expensive for several years, and hybrid plant-cell products will likely appear on the market first (08:58) Cultivated meat is ethically better than conventional meat (10:26) The main argument: cannibalization rather than conversion (16:46) Strategic drawbacks of the current focus (19:11) The evidence that would make me eat my words (and maybe cultivated meat) (20:37) What Id like to see change in the Effective Altruism approach to cultivated meat (22:14) Answer from GFI Europe --- First published: April 30th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/TYhs8zehyybvMt5E4/cultivating-doubt-why-i-no-longer-believe-cultivated-meat-is --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

I recently read a blog post that concluded with: When I'm on my deathbed, I won't look back at my life and wish I had worked harder. I'll look back and wish I spent more time with the people I loved. Setting aside that some people don't have the economic breathing room to make this kind of tradeoff, what jumps out at me is the implication that you're not working on something important that you'll endorse in retrospect. I don't think the author is envisioning directly valuable work (reducing risk from international conflict, pandemics, or AI-ed totalitarianism; improving humanity's treatment of animals; fighting global poverty) or the undervalued less direct approach of earning money and donating it to enable others to work on pressing problems. Definitely spend time with your friends, family, and those you love. Don't work to the exclusion of everything else [...] --- First published: May 1st, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cF6eumerCq8hnb9YT/prioritizing-work --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

I wanted to share a small but important challenge I've encountered as a student engaging with Effective Altruism from a lower-income country (Nigeria), and invite thoughts or suggestions from the community. Recently, I tried to make a one-time donation to one of the EA-aligned charities listed on the Giving What We Can platform. However, I discovered that I could not donate an amount less than $5. While this might seem like a minor limit for many, for someone like me — a student without a steady income or job, $5 is a significant amount. To provide some context: According to Numbeo, the average monthly income of a Nigerian worker is around $130–$150, and students often rely on even less — sometimes just $20–$50 per month for all expenses. For many students here, having $5 "lying around" isn't common at all; it could represent a week's worth of meals [...] --- First published: April 28th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YoN3sKfkr5ruW47Cg/reflections-on-the-usd5-minimum-donation-barrier-on-the --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

This is a link post. Summary: The NAO will increase our sequencing significantly over the next few months, funded by a $3M grant from Open Philanthropy. This will allow us to scale our early-warning system to where we could flag many engineered pathogens early enough to mitigate their worst impacts, and also generate large amounts of data to develop, tune, and evaluate our detection systems. One of the biological threats the NAO is most concerned with is a 'stealth' pathogen, such as a virus with the profile of a faster-spreading HIV. This could cause a devastating pandemic, and early detection would be critical to mitigate the worst impacts. If such a pathogen were to spread, however, we wouldn't be able to monitor it with traditional approaches because we wouldn't know what to look for. Instead, we have invested in metagenomic sequencing for pathogen-agnostic detection. This doesn't require deciding what [...] --- First published: April 2nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AJ8bd2sz8tF7cxJff/scaling-our-pilot-early-warning-system Linkpost URL: https://naobservatory.org/blog/scaling-our-early-warning-system/ --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

[Cross-posted from my Substack here] If you spend time with people trying to change the world, you’ll come to an interesting conundrum: Various advocacy groups reference previous successful social movements as to why their chosen strategy is the most important one. Yet, these groups often follow wildly different strategies from each other to achieve social change. So, which one of them is right? The answer is all of them and none of them. This is because many people use research and historical movements to justify their pre-existing beliefs about how social change happens. Simply, you can find a case study to fit most plausible theories of how social change happens. For example, the groups might say: Repeated nonviolent disruption is the key to social change, citing the Freedom Riders from the civil rights Movement or Act Up! from the gay rights movement. Technological progress is what drives improvements [...] The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 24th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kACcdhLDdWb9ZPG9L/why-you-can-justify-almost-anything-using-historical-social --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

Our Mission: To build a multidisciplinary field around using technology—especially AI—to improve the lives of nonhumans now and in the future. Overview Background This hybrid conference had nearly 550 participants and took place March 1-2, 2025 at UC Berkeley. It was organized by AI for Animals for $74k by volunteer core organizers Constance Li, Sankalpa Ghose, and Santeri Tani. This conference has evolved since 2023: The 1st conference mainly consisted of philosophers and was a single track lecture/. The 2nd conference put all lectures on one day and followed it with 2 days of interactive unconference sessions happening in parallel and a week of in-person co-working. This 3rd conference had a week of related satellite events, free shared accommodations for 50+ attendees, 2 days of parallel lectures/s/unconferences, 80 unique sessions, of which 32 are available on Youtube, Swapcard to enable 1:1 connections, and a Slack community to continue conversations year [...] --- Outline: (00:32) Overview (00:35) Background (02:27) Outcomes (03:51) The Event(s) (04:19) Speaking Sessions (04:23) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Conference presentation scenes with speakers and audience in auditorium setting. The image shows a collage of different presentation scenes at what appears to be an academic or professional conference. The main image shows an auditorium with attendees watching a video presentation on a large screen. Other smaller images show speakers on stage in different settings - some seated in orange chairs for a discussion, others at podiums. Theres a logo visible for what appears to be a research institute in one of the frames. The setting appears academic/professional in nature, with proper presentation equipment, stage lighting, and organized seating arrangements typical of a conference or symposium event. (05:10) Featured Talks (10:13) Lightning Talks (11:55) Interactive Sessions (12:19) Unconferences (13:22) Meetups (13:36) Mapping Workshops (13:44) Office Hours (13:59) Topic Distribution (14:18) Satellite Events (14:41) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Events schedule showing AI and animal-focused activities from Feb 26-Mar 2. (14:52) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ People gathered at social events, networking and dining in various settings. (15:02) Behind the Scenes (15:10) Personnel (16:04) Handbooks (16:24) Finances (19:21) Outreach (21:17) Event Reflection (24:12) Get Involved --- First published: April 5th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/KWpyRXzHn6JMyZiBn/ai-for-animals-2025-bay-area-retrospective --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

SUMMARY: ALLFED is launching an emergency appeal on the EA Forum due to a serious funding shortfall. Without new , ALLFED will be forced to cut half our budget in the coming months, drastically reducing our capacity to help build global food system resilience for catastrophic scenarios like nuclear winter, a severe pandemic, or infrastructure breakdown. ALLFED is seeking $800,000 over the course of 2025 to sustain its team, continue policy-relevant research, and move forward with pilot projects that could save lives in a catastrophe. As funding priorities shift toward AI safety, we believe resilient food solutions remain a highly cost-effective way to protect the future. If you’re able to or share this appeal, please visit allfed.info/donate. FULL ARTICLE: I (David Denkenberger) am writing alongside two of my team-mates, as ALLFED's co-founder, to ask for your . This is the first time in Alliance [...] --- Outline: (02:40) The case for ALLFED's work, and why we think maintaining full current capacity is valuable (04:14) How this connects to AI and other risks (05:39) What we're asking for --- First published: April 16th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/K7hPmcaf2xEZ6F4kR/allfed-emergency-appeal-help-us-raise-usd800-000-to-avoid-1 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Summary In this article, I estimate the cost-effectiveness of five Anima International programs in Poland: improving cage-free and broiler welfare, blocking new factory farms, banning fur farming, and encouraging retailers to sell more plant-based protein. I estimate that together, these programs help roughly 136 animals—or 32 years of farmed animal life—per dollar spent. Animal years affected per dollar spent was within an order of magnitude for all five evaluated interventions. I also tried to estimate how much suffering each program alleviates. Using SADs (Suffering-Adjusted Days)—a metric developed by Ambitious Impact (AIM) that s for species differences and pain intensity—Anima's programs appear highly cost-effective, even compared to charities recommended by Animal Charity Evaluators. However, I also ran a small informal survey to understand how people intuitively weigh different categories of pain defined by the Welfare Footprint Institute. The results suggested that SADs may heavily underweight brief but intense suffering. Based [...] --- Outline: (02:16) Background (02:46) Results (05:57) Explanations of the programs (08:59) Why these estimates are very uncertain (13:48) Animal welfare metric (16:42) Comparison to SADs (19:42) Comparison to other charities (19:47) Comparisons of SADs estimates (20:54) Comparisons of cage-free estimates (24:26) For how many years do reforms have an impact? (25:21) Cage-free (29:45) Broilers (31:18) Stop the farms (32:57) Fur farms The original text contained 8 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 10th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sLYSa7MyuDKxreN5h/cost-effectiveness-of-anima-international-poland-1 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.